After the gym

topic posted Thu, December 2, 2004 - 8:02 AM by  Amy
When I leave the gym I'm so ravenous, it's all I can do not to dive headfirst into my refrigerator. Any tricks for dealing with this?

I lost 30 lbs on Weight Watchers a few years ago, but gained a bunch of weight last year during a stressed-out McDonald's binge. Having trouble losing it again because I'm so undisciplined.
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  • Re: After the gym

    Thu, December 2, 2004 - 8:32 AM
    Amy- About not diving head first into the fridge-

    I hit the gym before work- so my post work out meal is egg, shreddies (a breakfast cereal) or toast or oatmeal, a banana, a glass of milk, some OJ some coffee and maybe some nuts.

    As far as staving off the cravings- try substitution instead of complete teetotalling.

    Instead of getting a burger from McDonalds and fries and a coke, make yourself a burger with extra lean ground beef, or make the switch to the darkside- try Tofu burgers! They are surprisingly delicious! I also make myself a little bit of low fat fries and a diet soda. It satiets my burger craving and it's actually healthy.

    My big junk food craving is in the form of pizza- so I started making my own pizza- The crust is available naked from my grocer and I pile on sauce, low fat cheese, tofu peperoni, and veggies and it's low fat, high protein, and very healthy!
    • Re: After the gym

      Thu, December 2, 2004 - 8:39 AM
      As a fail safe, if you do go into Mcdonalds, or Burger King, Don't order fries, and make sure that your soda is a diet soda.

      But, keep in mind, tha Mike as the better advice.
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        Thu, December 2, 2004 - 8:44 AM
        I agree with Ted.
        I don't know if it's the same in your neck of the woods, but where I'm from, the fast food giants have started offering healthy grilled alternatives that are low fat.

        And he speaks the truth about fries. Go with a friend and steal one or two of theirs and eat your own salad :)
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          Re: After the gym

          Fri, December 3, 2004 - 12:20 PM
          Honestly though, a Big Mac and Diet Coke isn't that bad for you... It's the fries and sugared sodas that really kill you.
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            Sat, December 4, 2004 - 11:22 AM
            Ehh... Remember that McD's uses what they call "grill seasoning" on pretty much everything, especially burgers and grilled chicken. This stuff is loaded with trans-fats. The more I learn about trans-fats the more I want to eliminate them from my diet all together.
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            Sat, December 4, 2004 - 8:20 PM
            A big mac is a hell of a lot worse for you than making it yourself at home.

            I'm thiking of the transfats for cooking (thanks sara) but also and perhaps more specifically- the fats that go into their 'special sauce' and the sodium in it as well. 30 g fats and over a 1000mg sodium.

            That's the burger alone. You're way better off just making it yourself.
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              Sat, December 4, 2004 - 9:11 PM
              I definitely agree that making a homemade burger is far more healthier. I guess my point was that a Big Mac is generally much more preferable than fries and sugared sodas. And if you gotta service a fast food craving, go to the sandwiches instead of the other stuff.
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                Sat, December 4, 2004 - 9:22 PM
                That kind of was my idea to. The golden arches will never be a signature of health, but some people will always break in an have a whopper, which I can proudly say I only had one (ok, I lied two) in the last two years.
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    Thu, December 2, 2004 - 8:32 AM
    Ps. Congrats on losing the weight.
    • Re: After the gym

      Thu, December 2, 2004 - 2:01 PM
      Actually, you want to make sure you get a fairly decent amount of carbs after a good workout. I recall reading a study recently that explained that even for those trying to lose weight, getting enough carbs after a workout is important -- it allows one to recover sufficiently to be able to work out with a decent level of intensity in the next workout.

      This is not news to those trying to gain muscle -- after workout nutrition is often recommended as 4 to 1 (carb to protein). What was news to me is that this is good advice even for people trying to lose weight.
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        Fri, December 3, 2004 - 8:17 AM
        Just to elaborate, people think proteins and such are for gaining not losing, but when you get adequate amounts of everything and build lean body mass you actually are capable of burning more calories at rest.
        As for pigging out right after the gym, I like to eat things like fruit that are high in fiber (filling) and thirst-quenching. I think a lot of cravings people get after eating are due to thirst.
        • AJ
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          Re: After the gym

          Sat, December 4, 2004 - 3:16 PM
          The extra amount of calories that LBM burns over fat mass is very, very minor. BMR can mostly be calculated by mass, regardless of composition.

          If your gym work includes heavy resistance training you abosolutely want high quality protien near gym time. Regardless of the aspect of gym work that you do, you probably want some simple sugars near gym time to replenish muscle glycogen. The insulin shunt will also pump nutrients (aminos!) into your depleted and stimulated muscles.
  • AJ
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    Re: After the gym

    Thu, December 2, 2004 - 2:39 PM
    When you're cutting calories, many small meals throughout the day seem to help me from ever getting to empty. Like 5 or 6 meals.

    Schedule one of those meals around gym time to abate hunger.

    Drink lots of water. Thirst is often mistaken for hunger.

    If you're not getting enough EFAs or protien or micronutrients in your cutting diet you will have crazy cravings which is your body trying to save you from scurvy or something. It can be difficult to tell these helpful hints from the general hunger you get from wasting off all that hard earned fat. Make sure you've got nutrition right as you cut down.
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      Fri, December 3, 2004 - 8:20 AM
      Absolutely most cravings are your body needing something, unfortunately we eat things that do not give us what we need, and are left wanting to eat more! I use healthy shakes (not like slim-fast, etc. which are not so nutritious) that are easy to make and have on the go, have lots of protein and other nutrients, don't leave you hungry, etc. I have been VERY pleased with the results.
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        Re: After the gym

        Fri, February 18, 2005 - 3:39 AM
        I make smoothies, using several fruits, yogurt, protein powder, glutamine. Does the sugar in the fruit outweigh the benefits?

        I am also trying to find healthy alternatives, and esp. would like to find a way to lower my carbs. Having a hard time eliminating bread.

        Thanks,

        Chip
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    Re: After the gym

    Fri, December 3, 2004 - 12:26 PM
    Maybe my body works differently, but my appetite is actually more suppressed after a good workout. With all those endorphins flowing, my appetite is very well masked.

    If you're not doing it already, I would advise concentrating on resistance routines that cover most of your body in the workout. If you're just doing aerobics, maybe that's why you're hungry. Or, maybe you're not getting a good breakfast in the morning--this is also key.
    • Re: After the gym

      Fri, December 3, 2004 - 4:38 PM
      Hmm that's a good point. I really mostly do aerobics right now because I'm such a flabby garbage-can that it's all I can do to drag myself thru the most basic workout.

      Just for the record, I don't go within 30 feet of a McDonald's anymore, but the fat just sits there on me, looking very at home and happy with itself. Darn that evil clown and his fat-soaked starch sticks.

      I'll try to eat well before the gym -- but more likely I'll allow myself a controlled snack after. And yes, small meals throughout the day not only curb my cravings, they keep me from getting a crazy low-blood-sugar reaction.

      Thanks fellas.
      • Re: After the gym

        Fri, December 3, 2004 - 7:36 PM
        What else do you do besides aerobics?

        if it is all you are doing, aerobics isn't going to cut it if you want to lose the 'flab'
        • Re: After the gym

          Sat, December 4, 2004 - 10:23 PM
          Right now, it's been so long since I've done anything -- like six months -- that I have to just get into the habit of going every day. I do 45 min cardio and either legs or arms each day. I know that's not going to cut it in this room, but man, it's all I can do to drag myself thru it. I HATE working out.
          • AJ
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            Re: After the gym

            Sun, December 5, 2004 - 2:01 AM
            Right. We kinda forget sometimes, gotta back the truck up.

            The most important part of improving at anything, excersise, diet or whatever is consistancy. Serious consistancy. The best way to acheive consistancy is to like what you're doing. As far as excercise goes, there's a million and three things to do. I'm a weights nut. Other people here and on the 'fitness' tribe climb, bike, run, dance, fight, swim, unicycle and ride horses. Someone over there likes following aerobics videos done in their living room.

            If you just squaredanced three times a week you'd be better off than 90% of the people on this continent. Whatever it turns out to be, you just gotta experiment and find your thing. If you feel like a hamster, get outside.
            You've got that park. Whatever works.

            I reccomend heavy weights and boxing. Everyone else will say something different, but the principles are largely the same. The most important principle is fun. If it ain't fun you won't do it.

            Despite how efficient lifting weights is for changing body composition, playing table tennis 3 times a week is infinitely better for you than finding an excuse not to go lift three times a week.

            Just move.
            • AJ
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              Re: After the gym

              Sun, December 5, 2004 - 2:03 AM
              oh yeah and goals. Measurable short and long term goals. Otherwise you feel like you're going nowhere.
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                Sun, December 5, 2004 - 11:04 AM
                Yeah, definitely. Beyond setting a weight goal, also look over your body and decide what you want each area to look like once you've reached peak form. And gear the exercises in that direction. Note that it's important to be honest in your body assessment--we can't all look like Barbie's and Ken's. Think of the better, yet realistic body you can achieve.
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            Re: After the gym

            Sun, December 5, 2004 - 10:57 AM
            The thing about working out is that if you haven't been doing it , or haven't been doing it consistently, it is indeed a dreadful activity when you do it. However, if you get consistent with it, and do a good routine 3 times a week, it won't take but a couple weeks or so before you start feeling the endorphin rush. And one reason many people consistently exercise is that they look forward to getting that rush.

            Another thing that might increase your interest in exercise would be to find a routine that's "interesting". Given what you've told us, I think you might find pilates to work for you. It's kind of aerobic, kind of anerobic. It uses your body (and gravity) for resistance, and gets your heart pumping too. And what's really cool is that the exercises are so mechanically clever, that aspect may also hook you. On top of that, you can do different kinds of pilates exercises each time you do them.

            There are all sorts of pilates books and videos available. I'd recommend at least exploring it.
            • Re: After the gym

              Sun, December 5, 2004 - 2:02 PM
              What is interesting is that awful feeling you get when you miss a workout after you have been in a routine for a while.

              One of the main reasons I dread getting sick with the flu or cold.

              So there is certainly hope that once you get into a pattern of working out, you will look forward to it.
              • Re: After the gym

                Sun, December 5, 2004 - 2:19 PM
                Alex- I totally understand what you mean.

                Recently when I got a flu followed immediately by a cold- instead of waking up and hitting the gym or strapping on my Nikes and going for a run I hit my yoga mat for some serious ashtanga time.

                It definitely not the same things as weights and running, but it was good to get sweaty and at least I got some endorphines.
              • AJ
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                Re: After the gym

                Sun, December 5, 2004 - 3:22 PM
                Yeah, the thing is, we're all used to dealing with peeps we have to tell "Its okay to miss one workout! Its okay! You'll survive."
                Goal fixated psychopaths that need to be reigned in more than pushed forward.
                • Re: After the gym

                  Mon, December 6, 2004 - 3:28 PM
                  I did buy a bike and, once I get it settled in my garage, hope I'll have the chance to take it out on a daily basis. I absolutely love riding bikes, as long as I'm not riding them in an aerobic studio with a muscly man yelling at me over the bwamp-bwamp-bwamp music.

                  I used to be SERIOUSLY addicted to step class, especially one taught by this fella at one of the Crunches here in NYC. Man! was he good. Trouble is, I'm in a less glamorous part of town now, and ... this is terrible, but the women who teach these classes have no imagination. It's so duuuuull. like ballet class for seven-year-olds. So there's nothing to distract me from the pain of the workout. Which -- given my marshmallow body -- is quite awful at this point.

                  I'm such a complainer! waah waah waah.

                  It's REALLY hard for me to keep on track nutritionally. Last time I weighed this much, I worked out a LOT and saw no difference. It wasn't till I got all serious with weight watchers that my body re-shaped itself. It was a great feeling, but ugh. I was so hungry all the time. I do hate hungry!
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        Re: After the gym

        Fri, February 18, 2005 - 3:41 AM
        What is a good snack before the gym? I do about 25 minutes or cardio before my workout, and if I dont eat something, I get really wasted (dizzy, feverish) at the gym.
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          Re: After the gym

          Fri, February 18, 2005 - 4:47 AM
          amy, i have the same problem with the post work out desire to binge, i somehow think it's ok seeing as i just worked out and all, so what i need was a complete overhaul on my fridge and cabinets, all healthy snacks and stuff for lunches, then if i still want something i shouldn't have, i ask myself if i will really feel good about it, that has so far stopped me, my only weakness is chocolate, i do allow myself to have some, seeing i've been going to the gym everyday, then every night i do 45 mins of cardio and misc arm/abs stuff as i'm watching tv, alittle chocolate helps keep my sanity, but the healthy snacks have helped alot....
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          Fri, February 18, 2005 - 7:10 AM
          Nothing specific - I'm guessing you workout first thing in the AM? Try a banana or orange juice and a piece of toast.
        • AJ
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          Re: After the gym

          Fri, February 18, 2005 - 11:45 AM
          Before the gym? Low glycemic carbs. Protien

          When I'm dieting, just a couple crackers is enough to keep my blood sugar in a workoutable range.

          After the gym? High gylcemic carbs to replenish muscle glycogen. Protien.
          • Re: After the gym

            Mon, February 21, 2005 - 10:16 AM
            A lot has been said about working out hungry when you do cardio - it burns fat better. I've recently heard that isn't true for everybody (from my trainer).

            I've also heard consistently that you should definitely have a little something in your stomach before you do resistance training - I have found that's true for me. Never a full meal (or it will come back), but def. a little protein.

            I have trouble bouncing out of bed into a cardio routine, because I have kidlets in the way and I have to drag them along too (one on each leg - it's a new kind of resistance training), so I never make it to the gym hungry unless I get there before they wake up (5 a.m. - I am rarely that dedicated).

            I have found that consuming one of those overpriced EAS ready-to-go shakes does take the edge off after any workout - they're fairly high protein (15gr) and low carb and fat (like a couple grams each), they're like $1.50 apiece. Before resistance training I take a supplement of amino acids, and that seems to boost my energy enough to push hard.

            I concur - as aj has so astutely pointed out, everyone will say something different...
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              Re: After the gym

              Fri, July 29, 2005 - 4:19 AM
              i usually snack on low fat sugar free yogurt as soon as i get back from the gym. it has carbs and protein and seems to give my body what it needs because i feel great after eating some.

              i <3 yogurt!
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                Re: After the gym

                Mon, January 2, 2006 - 12:38 PM
                When you start a new routine at the gym after not doing much, expect to be starving after each workout, as well as ready to go to sleep for a few hours. This will go away. Give it 3-4 months and you will see a huge improvement, and no longer be starving. Exercise actually supresses appetite, but not till you have been working on it awhile. After exercise, eat a snack that has a little carb, protine, fat. Cut up an apple with a tablespoon of non-fat (or low if you don't like the taste of non-fat) yogurt, and a spoonfull of chopped nuts. Also try a half a banana cut up on a piece of whole grain toast (or small size bagel) w/ 1 tablespoon peanutbutter.
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    Fri, January 13, 2006 - 12:16 PM
    You should drink a recovery drink like Endurox R4 that has the proper mix of protein and carbs within the first half-hour after your workout. This is when you really do need carbs and protein. You can have it all mixed and ready to drink in your bag and before you get in your car drink it. Not only will this be very good for you - it will dull those Mc-cravings!

    Good luck! - Patrick
  • Re: After the gym

    Sun, February 26, 2006 - 6:37 PM
    First of all, i am truly inspired by the collective wealth of knowledge on this group. Amy, you are in good hands here. However, there are a couple of things that haven't been addressed that I want to bring to attention.

    You got a lot of great information on what do to fight the cravings (maybe too much - LOL). But i'm more curious about a couple of comments you made.

    You said that you were 'undisciplined', and you also said that you were on a stress eating binge after you lost weight. A lot of the advice given will help with the physical stuff. The weight loss, the cravings, etc. But knowing what to do isn't your challenge. You feel me?

    How do I know this? You already lost weight successfully. You hit a huge goal, right? So, what really derailed you? (BTW, I'm not asking for a response- this is for you to think about).

    Instead of focusing on 'what' do, think about the 'Why'? Why did you go on the binges? Why are you, as you say 'undisciplined?'

    I'd say in addition to all this great advice, get yourself a strong support system. This fitness game is as much mental as it is physical. And always remember, our physical bodies are simply a reflection of what's going on inside.
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    Mon, February 27, 2006 - 11:07 AM
    something I tell myself about those crazy cravings for stuff that I know I shouldn't have........ is that I just burned off the fat that was stored from a time when I did eat that food, hence in a way I am "feeling" it again, but the whole idea of the exercise was to burn it off and not put it back on! I'm sure it's not exactly true that I've just burned off "those particular, specific fat cells" but it is a great way to retrain my thinking on how to deal with the urges.

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